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Put his best aggregate season together and you have a top-5 pick. Problem is Longoria hasn't put it all together the same season yet.

if he does it this season, he'll be a consensus top-10 pick next year.

One thing that stands out to me as you look at this top-12, and as I read comments about it being a crap-shoot after the first 4, is Votto. He's down at number 10 and number 3 among 1Bers on this list. Whereas I've seen him as the number 1 1B and as high as 4-5 (although more often around 7) elsewhere. Generally lists I've seen have Votto and Pujols interchangeable around 6 and 7.

Is he being undervalued here? The strong spring would seem to indicate no lingering concern with the miniscus. (Maybe that's it, this was a pre-spring post?)

Thoughts? Thanks.

lewp wrote:One thing that stands out to me as you look at this top-12, and as I read comments about it being a crap-shoot after the first 4, is Votto. He's down at number 10 and number 3 among 1Bers on this list. Whereas I've seen him as the number 1 1B and as high as 4-5 (although more often around 7) elsewhere. Generally lists I've seen have Votto and Pujols interchangeable around 6 and 7.

Is he being undervalued here? The strong spring would seem to indicate no lingering concern with the miniscus. (Maybe that's it, this was a pre-spring post?)

Thoughts? Thanks.

Even with a healthy knee, Votto's power is capped as he does not hit many fly balls and relies on a high HR/FB.

I don't see him running much anymore

If his power is back, that makes him a 25 HR guy with a high average - sounds more like Butler/AGonz than the #5 pick to me.

The only reason he's not lower in my projections is I didn't adjust the SB down. The 9 carries over pre-injury numbers.

Just a follow-up on the Longoria discussion: he's been healthy all year, and he's just nowhere close to top 10 value.

Moral of the story: expecting veterans to perform at a higher level than they have before is not a great bet! Of course, neither is Matt Kemp...so you can lose in the first round in a number of ways.

2004 Champs wrote:Just a follow-up on the Longoria discussion: he's been healthy all year, and he's just nowhere close to top 10 value.

Moral of the story: expecting veterans to perform at a higher level than they have before is not a great bet! Of course, neither is Matt Kemp...so you can lose in the first round in a number of ways.

For the record, he's been on the field but not 100% healthy. Not saying he would have been a first rounder - just pointing out he's been playing hurt.

I have him as the 45th hitter now so add in a few pitchers and he's 4th/5th round talent.

and btw he will get drafted too early again next year - of course so will Tulowitzki and Kemp