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Projections (12/01/09)

Posted: December 1st, 2009, 8:55 am
by JP Kastner
Here is the thread to discuss the December 1st projections. I'd like to make a couple of comments before we begin.

When you try to do projections this yearly, there will be holes because free agents have not been signed. We only projected what we know (or what we think we know) to be true. That means that there isn't a shortstop for the Tigers. We will not make someone a full-time player if we know that they are not just to fill in roster slots.

There are a couple of players that last year exceeded their expectations (Joe Mauer) that were unsupported then (Joe Mauer) and lack a track record of that performance (Joe Mauer).

Other than that, keep the discussion to one player per e-mail. You may list a single player's projections for the purposes of discussion.

Re: Projections (12/01/09)

Posted: December 1st, 2009, 2:48 pm
by aburt19
I guess that I'll ask the obvious question. Where do I find the projections? I haven't renewed my subscription yet (I intend
to in the next couple of weeks), so maybe that's why I don't see it.

Re: Projections (12/01/09)

Posted: December 1st, 2009, 3:06 pm
by JP Kastner
Yes, you need to subscribe again to see them. We have two options this year. Platinum is the same price. Gold is just projections for $9.99.


JP

Re: Projections (12/01/09)

Posted: December 1st, 2009, 4:08 pm
by aburt19
No problem. I'll just wait the two weeks to look at them.

Re: Projections (12/01/09)

Posted: December 19th, 2009, 3:09 pm
by aburt19
I was wondering about Jayson Nix not being listed among the offensive players. Other than a low BA, he was serviceable
last year for injury fill-in for an AL only league.

Again, not having him listed is not a big problem because at best he's a $1 flier as an injury fill-in.

Re: Projections (12/01/09)

Posted: December 19th, 2009, 4:21 pm
by Todd Zola
With Konerko, Beckham, Ramirez and Teahen in the infield and Vizquel. Lillibridge and perhaps Viciedo as reserves, it is not clear Nix will break camp with the White Sox.

In addition, I am not even sure I would want him as a $1 injury flier in a league of any depth.

If it appears he will get some MLB time, he is on the list to be added.

FWIW, given 100 AB in Chicago, his line would be .232-4-12-3-15

Re: Projections (12/01/09)

Posted: December 19th, 2009, 5:43 pm
by aburt19
Todd Zola wrote:With Konerko, Beckham, Ramirez and Teahen in the infield and Vizquel. Lillibridge and perhaps Viciedo as reserves, it is not clear Nix will break camp with the White Sox.

In addition, I am not even sure I would want him as a $1 injury flier in a league of any depth.

If it appears he will get some MLB time, he is on the list to be added.

FWIW, given 100 AB in Chicago, his line would be .232-4-12-3-15
I had forgotten about Vizquel. That might limit his chances. I figured that his versatility might give him a chance. Last
year he played 2B, 3B, SS (although I would think that his range would be suspect at that position), and OF. I figured
that he might fill the super utility role. The only player that looks to have a sure spot, as the roster currently is
configured, for the OF is Kotsay, who also covers first. Nix's BA is poor, but in 255 AB last year he had low double digit
home runs and SB. In roto, that's not that normal for a player with only few AB. I went with him for a while when
my 2B was down and he was okay for an AL only league.

Spring training will settle the issue, I'm sure.

Re: Projections (12/01/09)

Posted: December 19th, 2009, 5:55 pm
by Todd Zola
Actually, JP and I gave the nod to Lillibridge over Nix in the first run because Lillibridge has played more OF than Nix.

Is Nix worth a reserve in an AL only league like Tout or LABR? Yeah, I'll agree with that. But I'm not sure I want his BA as my MI on my active roster.

Re: Projections (12/01/09)

Posted: December 20th, 2009, 12:13 pm
by aburt19
There appears to be a problem with the ERA vs the ER and with WHIP compared to the H+BB, because the calculation
doesn't work out.

Just a couple of examples:

Jake Peavy
Shown on the projection-166 IP, 76 ER, ERA 3.638, H+BB 229, WHIP 1.218.
Actual ERA using ER shown 4.12, Actual WHIP using H+BB shown 1.379

Joe Nathan
Shown on the projection-52 IP, 18 ER, ERA 2.382, H+BB 72, WHIP 1.059
Actual ERA using ER Shown 3.115, Actual WHIP using H+BB shown 1.385

There appears to be a mistake in the formula. I don't know whether it affects the dollar values because I'm not sure which
set of numbers is right (I would assume the ERA and WHIP shown are right and the numbers in ER and H+BB are wrong) and
which set of numbers is used to calculate the dollar value.

Re: Projections (12/01/09)

Posted: December 20th, 2009, 12:24 pm
by Todd Zola
on it...

Re: Projections (12/01/09)

Posted: December 20th, 2009, 12:33 pm
by Todd Zola
ARGHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

Note the IP and HIT columns -- they look eerily similar....

I will fix the file and get it posted ASAP

Re: Projections (12/01/09)

Posted: December 20th, 2009, 1:48 pm
by Todd Zola
fixed