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 Post subject: Impact of changes on keepers...
PostPosted: March 5th, 2013, 5:03 pm 
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12 team 5X5 Roto, daily moves league (Standard Cats, innings max/mins). C,1B,2B,SS,3B,OF,OF,OF,UTIL,UTIL, and I think 7 active P slots, where you can rotate in/out SP/RP, then 5 batter or pitching bench slots (22 players on each roster). League also has 4 DL slots, when MLB puts players on DL, they can be there.

League has been in existence 5 or 6 years. This year we are losing 1, or possibly 2 owners. All those players will be going back into the eligible/draft pool (not surprisingly those teams weren't full of talent though). The league has also voted to include a CI and MI (of note to me, the league did not expand rosters by 2 to now include CI,MI...guessing that benches are even tighter now, at 3).

What are the general thoughts here on what these changes do to drafting/building a team? Obviously, dropping from 12 down to 11 or 10 mean I should have a decent chance to acquire talent through the draft, but adding a CI and MI, and dropping the bench down to 3 have me questioning things. Having to field 12 bats basically every day (and only 3 total bench slots for all players) makes me think I have to dedicate all my early resources to batters. I think my proposed P keepers should keep me competitive, if I can get some late drafted help/sleepers/pick ups during the season a P.

If we go down to 11 teams, I'll be drafting at 1.10:
Was going to consider keeping Verlander in place of 1st rd, probably not now, thoughts?
Keep Wainright as RD8
Keep Bumgarner as RD13
Keep Latos as RD14
Keep Adam Jones as RD5?
Keep Choo as RD7?
Keep Hosmer as RD10?
Keep Ian Desmond as RD11?
Keep Kipnis as RD12?
Keep Melky as RD10?

These keepers seem less and less exciting given this is going from 12 team down to 11, or even 10. Most the rest of my team isn't worth keeping, or can't as they were 1st or 2nd round draftees that have to go back (Made several late season trades going for a championship that didn't work out..gave up cheap Trout, Stanton, Goldy and others...arrgh).

Not sure what to do with this team???


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 Post subject: Re: Impact of changes on keepers...
PostPosted: March 6th, 2013, 11:19 am 
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jkadagio wrote:
12 team 5X5 Roto, daily moves league (Standard Cats, innings max/mins). C,1B,2B,SS,3B,OF,OF,OF,UTIL,UTIL, and I think 7 active P slots, where you can rotate in/out SP/RP, then 5 batter or pitching bench slots (22 players on each roster). League also has 4 DL slots, when MLB puts players on DL, they can be there.

League has been in existence 5 or 6 years. This year we are losing 1, or possibly 2 owners. All those players will be going back into the eligible/draft pool (not surprisingly those teams weren't full of talent though). The league has also voted to include a CI and MI (of note to me, the league did not expand rosters by 2 to now include CI,MI...guessing that benches are even tighter now, at 3).

What are the general thoughts here on what these changes do to drafting/building a team? Obviously, dropping from 12 down to 11 or 10 mean I should have a decent chance to acquire talent through the draft, but adding a CI and MI, and dropping the bench down to 3 have me questioning things. Having to field 12 bats basically every day (and only 3 total bench slots for all players) makes me think I have to dedicate all my early resources to batters. I think my proposed P keepers should keep me competitive, if I can get some late drafted help/sleepers/pick ups during the season a P.

If we go down to 11 teams, I'll be drafting at 1.10:
Was going to consider keeping Verlander in place of 1st rd, probably not now, thoughts?
Keep Wainright as RD8
Keep Bumgarner as RD13
Keep Latos as RD14
Keep Adam Jones as RD5?
Keep Choo as RD7?
Keep Hosmer as RD10?
Keep Ian Desmond as RD11?
Keep Kipnis as RD12?
Keep Melky as RD10?

These keepers seem less and less exciting given this is going from 12 team down to 11, or even 10. Most the rest of my team isn't worth keeping, or can't as they were 1st or 2nd round draftees that have to go back (Made several late season trades going for a championship that didn't work out..gave up cheap Trout, Stanton, Goldy and others...arrgh).

Not sure what to do with this team???


I should start with the obvious question of How many keepers are allowed? (as I don't see that)
....but I would definitely keep Kipnis at 12, Desmond at 11, and Bumgarner at 13 for starters

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 Post subject: Re: Impact of changes on keepers...
PostPosted: March 6th, 2013, 12:31 pm 
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Sorry for not making that clear Perry. Unlimited keepers, you just lose the draft pick in the round stated. In theory, if I felt the value was right, I could keep all that I have listed.


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 Post subject: Re: Impact of changes on keepers...
PostPosted: March 6th, 2013, 12:57 pm 
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jkadagio wrote:
Keep Wainright as RD8
Keep Bumgarner as RD13
Keep Latos as RD14
Keep Adam Jones as RD5?
Keep Choo as RD7?
Keep Hosmer as RD10?
Keep Ian Desmond as RD11?
Keep Kipnis as RD12?
Keep Melky as RD10?


Frankly I don't think it should really upset your apple cart - you still keep the players at value or that you can't replace.

Actually if you had better hitting, I would keep Verlander but I think you need to get a BIG bat assuming one is going to be available

So right now I would keep these for sure
Keep Adam Jones as RD5
Keep Wainright as RD8
Keep Bumgarner as RD13

and I would keep ALL of these BUT together with Bumgarner you won't have a pick between rounds 10-13, 10-14 if you keep Melky ... BUT all of them should have gone earlier in a redraft!
Keep Hosmer as RD10
Keep Ian Desmond as RD11
Keep Kipnis as RD12
Keep Melky as RD10

It is actually the basis for a VERY GOOD team given you will draft STUDS in rounds 1-4

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