NFBC FAAB Advice

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#31 Post by Glenneration X »

Interesting topic......

My recommendation, if in a mixed league don't break the bank on Britton. He's got talent, but is still a rookie pitcher, pitches in a hitter's park, pitches in a division filled with hitter's parks, pitches in a division with the Yanks, Bosox, & Jays, and Matusz will be back in a month. Remember, Matusz is just as talented and took plenty of lumps before he started putting it together.

For the poster playing in the WCOFB, I had some success in that contest last year. Streaming pitchers is a necessity there to compete in the counting stats. Still, be wary of who you stream. Throwing whip & era killers out there for double starts a few times will doom you in those categories. Use the FP spots wisely. Good luck, maybe we'll be battling at the end of the year there.

RobDMay

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#32 Post by RobDMay »

Given whats available in our particular NFBC league and what some players went for last week I think it will be a feeding frenzy on Britton even more so if he goes off tonight.

southpaw

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#33 Post by southpaw »

Thoughts on Esmil Rogers?

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#34 Post by deansdaddy »

Hey Glenn,

Nice to see you over here at MB! We have a couple guys new to the FAAB process - glad to have you drop in to give some WCOFB advice.

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#35 Post by viper »

I guess it's safe to say that Britton will be the highest bid on player this week in the NFBC. My guess is that $500 will not be enough. It will be fun to check it out tomorrow evening around 9pm.
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#36 Post by deansdaddy »

Well - I know that I plunked down some serious cash on Jordan Walden tonight in both of Perry's 15 team leagues.

We play with NFBC rules - and I needed help at closer on both teams. One I have Farnsworth and A Bailey and I cut HC Kuo to get Walden - I think I spent $333 here. I'm hanging onto Motte awhile longer here as well.

In the other league I have F Cordero, B League, McGee and Storen - But I still felt that getting Walden was the right move for my team.

I think I went even higher here - $378

Hope I'm right here - 40 saves or bust.

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#37 Post by southpaw »

I've actually had a decent week and have climbed to 4th out of 14 overall.

Here are my overall numbers:

AB R HR RBI SB AVG W ERA SV IP K WHIP
387 67 14 65 6 .28682 5 3.750 4 96.0 81 1.188

I see Torres went down with some sort of Achilles injury so that can't be good. I'll most likely have to insert Ludwick this week from my bench.
I'm going to take Glenn's advice and not look to just stream for the sake of streaming. I have a stable ERA/WHIP going right now and I don't want to blow it. I did end up with 12 starts this week so my K's look good; now if I could only pick up a few W's.... :)

Any idea how much $ it will take to grab Esmil Rogers from the WW this week?
Britton was drafted in my league so he won't be out there to fight over. Just scrubs like Chen, Livan, Maholm, Saunders and Arrieta.

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#38 Post by viper »

My AL only league has the Britton sweepstakes tonight. He was not eligible for the draft because he had already been sent down. He was not eligible last week because he was not brought up prior to Sunday morning when OnRoto created its list of available players. I will make a token bid but I am expecting really, really high bids. Our $200 budget may very well see a $100+ bid as the winner.

I think there should be a Britton thread as soon as the NFBC bids are posted with winning bid noted. Runner-up bids would be neat to see also.
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#39 Post by Glenneration X »

deansdaddy wrote:Hey Glenn,

Nice to see you over here at MB! We have a couple guys new to the FAAB process - glad to have you drop in to give some WCOFB advice.
No problem Ryan. I've been a Mastersball subscriber for a couple years now, but just recently started checking out the boards.

Britton should be interesting tonight. Curious how high the overbidding goes.

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#40 Post by Todd Zola »

I will keep the name(s) under wraps because the owner(s) may (or may not) play in the NFBC, but in the two NFBC style leagues that Perry runs that draft in December and January, Britton went for 165 and 210.

I would consider these leagues akin to an NFBC satellite in terms of competitiveness.
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#41 Post by viper »

In my one AL only league that did FAAB last night with a $200 budget and $0 bids allowed, Britton went for $108 with a $101 bid missing out. Two owners choose not to bid. I understand that because why bid at all if your bid was going to be very low. My $1 bid failed.
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#42 Post by southpaw »

My Esmil Rogers bid of $29 failed as he went for $36 in my WCOFB league.

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#43 Post by RobDMay »

Britton went for 485 with a runner bid of 371 in my NCBC sat league. Desmond Jennings went for 301 with the next bid being 44 OUCH.

I took a flyer on Santos for 7

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#44 Post by deansdaddy »

I was the $44 bid - and I dropped there from $77 earlier in the day. Still I wasn't even in the same ballpark. We have had some free spenders early in this league that is for sure.

I underbid on all my targets ( Britton, Harrison, C Getz) but one - where I got C Snyder for $19 un-contested.

I did get Harrison for $77 in my DP league and was pretty happy about that. I got outbid on Jordan Walden there - but I bid less here than in the other leagues (where I won him) since I have Bell and Street. Would like to add a third closer - but would rather get one cheaper here.

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#45 Post by RobDMay »

Looking like Santos for $7 could be a steal for me.

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#46 Post by Captain Hook »

RobDMay wrote:Looking like Santos for $7 could be a steal for me.
Why? He will have to get some opportunities first and let's remember it IS Ozzie Guillen we are talking about
(btw I agree that Santos may have value IF he gets a shot and can perform very well right away....but that is certainly not a given)

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#47 Post by RobDMay »

Captain Hook wrote:
RobDMay wrote:Looking like Santos for $7 could be a steal for me.
Why? He will have to get some opportunities first and let's remember it IS Ozzie Guillen we are talking about
(btw I agree that Santos may have value IF he gets a shot and can perform very well right away....but that is certainly not a given)

Your absolutely right but I would rather gamble $7 a week early then have to pay threw the nose if he happens to get a save chance or two this week. At this point I don't event think Ozzie knows who is getting the next save chance. Maybe the flop comes and I hit the flush maybe I miss for $7 I willing to take a look in NFBC.

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#48 Post by southpaw »

Well, went all in on Hosmer in my WCOFB league last night.
My winning bid of $482 was $60 over the runner up bid of $422. I was leery to go that high but I really needed some stability at my CI spot and with guys like Reynolds, Desmond, Espinosa, and Posada draining my BA, I needed help in that area. I'm sitting second in the league, just a couple points behind the Desperados.
I also put a substantial bid on Melancon but was way off. I thought my $190 would be in contention and would have loved to acquire a 3rd closer behind Axford and Storen/Burnett. I also have Venters for a some vulture saves. But he went for $400+ with some runner up bids in the 200/300 range so my bid was on the lower end.
So I was real aggressive this week and got my main target. I'll hopefully be able to target some saves later on but with Melancon going so high, I think this will only inflate bids on speculative closers and step in closers in the future.

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#49 Post by Todd Zola »

southpaw wrote: I think this will only inflate bids on speculative closers and step in closers in the future.
This gets filed under "easier said than done", but the idea here is, assuming you have a reserve spot to sacrifice, to speculate on someone that costs the minimum bid that is not at the forefront of speculative closers. Someone like Jake McGee may be available or Scott Downs. You can even rotate guys into this spot so long as you only spend a buck or two per pickup.

It is hard to answer the question "who do you suggest I acquire", because if there was an answer, they would likely be owned.

It is not a part of the hobby I like, pure speculation, but that is where the game has evolved.
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#50 Post by RobDMay »

Hosmer went for 500 in my NFBC Sat league, Melacon for 228, Padilla for 89.

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#51 Post by Captain Hook »

Hosmer winning bids (with highest underbid) in three WCOFB leagues

337 (243)

580 (355)

388 (I was one of Four teams who bid 333)

bids for Melancon if unowned was all over - there was a $300+ bid by one of the best players who is short on saves

RobDMay

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#52 Post by RobDMay »

Ryan that Nathan bid had to hurt.

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#53 Post by deansdaddy »

Yeah - it's never fun to overbid on a guy by over $200 :oops: And whats worse is I upped the bid twice during the day :D

But - he went for big bucks in a bunch of other leagues and I decided I wanted him. I have missed out on a a lot of guys in this league by underbidding - and sometimes this will be the result. I came into the week with over $800 - so I'm fine with it. I don't really worry about spending big on a player I want and I think Nathan will pay dividends on that investment.

What I am not so okay with is how your are running away with this league - 140 points!!! That's just crazy good.

I will keep battling and hopefully I can stay in your rear view with Rob Giese. Funny - the three guys from this league who checked in here on the boards regarding this league are running 1-2-3 right now. Keep up the good work - and don't get too comfortable :lol:

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#54 Post by RobDMay »

Yea its the most uncomfortable lead I have ever had, I just keep waiting for it to come crashing down. My SP still scares me there is no way my staff can maintain that ERA and WHIP all season. I still feel strongly about my offense and Hanely hasn't really done too much for me yet.

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