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Re: Draft day software

#11 Post by shif6 »

I have at least one HQ and MB subscriber in two of my 8 owner leagues; and even more of both in a 12 owner league. It is a lot easier to draft in my ten owner league packed with HQ owners (some Benson owners) and no MB owners. I agree that FB did generally better on the players where they differed. Of course, Shandler's general line on the limits of projections is dead on. It's an educated crap shoot.

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#12 Post by cwk1963 »

I've been a customer of Merv for a number of years now. I actually had directions of how to get MB projections into his program but in the move to a new computer a couple years ago they got lost. I can understand Merv not wanting to put that out there since his contract with BBHQ calls for them to be the sole projection source for RotoLab. So I've been putting the MB projections/values/profiles (or mine if I radically disagree with a particular player) manually into his software and yes, it is very time consuming. But the end product is great. Once you get used to using RotoLab, there are many features that are very helpful and I highly recommend it.

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Re: Draft day software

#13 Post by shif6 »

One of the problems with importing projections into rotolab (assuming it were permitted by the software) is that the names will not line up. HQ has players MB does not and vice versa. This throws everything off. In addition, player are named differently (Bob v. Bobby). So one would have to spend an extraordinary amount of time getting the names amended and lined up. Getting rid of the HQ names and data will never be an option. As I have said, comparing HQ and MB is an option and putting in the values of MB where there are sharp contrasts is easy to do (less easy with multiple leagues with different configurations).
Even if I thought HQ values were not worth looking at (a proposition that wwould be hard to defend - though slavish adherence to any set of values is foolhardy), I would use rotolab. It is extraordinary software with terrific customer service.

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#14 Post by cwk1963 »

shif6 wrote:One of the problems with importing projections into rotolab (assuming it were permitted by the software) is that the names will not line up. HQ has players MB does not and vice versa. This throws everything off. In addition, player are named differently (Bob v. Bobby). So one would have to spend an extraordinary amount of time getting the names amended and lined up. Getting rid of the HQ names and data will never be an option. As I have said, comparing HQ and MB is an option and putting in the values of MB where there are sharp contrasts is easy to do (less easy with multiple leagues with different configurations).
Even if I thought HQ values were not worth looking at (a proposition that wwould be hard to defend - though slavish adherence to any set of values is foolhardy), I would use rotolab. It is extraordinary software with terrific customer service.
When I had the covert instructions how to do it, it worked great because the HQ file was basically over-written and replaced by whatever you wanted to use. Then if there were any missing players (since HQ does project a heck of a lot more players than most do) you just added them back in if you wanted to.

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#15 Post by shif6 »

Very cool. Did not know that was possible. For me, I think there is a case for having the HQ projections as the default so I know what more of my league members are looking at (even assuming that the MB projections are superior) just so long as I have the MB values where they differ significantly from HQ.

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#16 Post by cwk1963 »

shif6 wrote:Very cool. Did not know that was possible. For me, I think there is a case for having the HQ projections as the default so I know what more of my league members are looking at (even assuming that the MB projections are superior) just so long as I have the MB values where they differ significantly from HQ.
That's good you have that advantage of knowing what your league mates are using. My league plays it very close to the vest. So much so that there's suspicion a couple are showing up with magazines that have another magazine cover over it to throw people off the trail. Good thing we're not building rockets here or who knows what might be going on.

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#17 Post by ShawnC »

cwk1963 wrote:
shif6 wrote: My league plays it very close to the vest. So much so that there's suspicion a couple are showing up with magazines that have another magazine cover over it to throw people off the trail.
When I'm at a draft and they show up with magazines - I usually look at it as one less worthy adversary to worry about.
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ShawnC wrote:
cwk1963 wrote:
shif6 wrote: My league plays it very close to the vest. So much so that there's suspicion a couple are showing up with magazines that have another magazine cover over it to throw people off the trail.
When I'm at a draft and they show up with magazines - I usually look at it as one less worth adversary to worry about.
Lol. In one of my leagues, which has been around for more than 20 years, one owner buys a magazine the day before the draft each year, and pages through it repeatedly during the auction. He has 2 titles, and I'm still looking for my first!

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alleyoops wrote:Lol. In one of my leagues, which has been around for more than 20 years, one owner buys a magazine the day before the draft each year, and pages through it repeatedly during the auction. He has 2 titles, and I'm still looking for my first!
Ouch!! Does he qualify for the blind squirrel category?

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alleyoops wrote:Lol. In one of my leagues, which has been around for more than 20 years, one owner buys a magazine the day before the draft each year, and pages through it repeatedly during the auction. He has 2 titles, and I'm still looking for my first!
As the Forum Funklord would say: I'd rather be wrong for the right reasons than right for the wrong reasons.

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#21 Post by SteveB »

LOL thats funny one year in a local redraft league i picked up a magazine on the way to a draft so everyone there would
thnk i was a noob. I didnt know anyone else was helping a friend fill in the league

Its hard to make trades if everyone thinks your are a ringer AND no one knows you. If they think you suck its amazing how nice they can be.

Of course year two they werent so nice :D

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ShawnC wrote:
alleyoops wrote:Lol. In one of my leagues, which has been around for more than 20 years, one owner buys a magazine the day before the draft each year, and pages through it repeatedly during the auction. He has 2 titles, and I'm still looking for my first!
As the Forum Funklord would say: I'd rather be wrong for the right reasons than right for the wrong reasons.

Last year one of my best friends, who has been wanting to know how I go about putting my team together, decided he had figured me out. We ended up duking it out on a number of players. He ended up winning the league over me by 1/2 point when he decided to drop Lackey the last week of the season. If you look up Lackey's last game he imploded and his previous game was a gem. To this day I dunno why he dropped him. I asked him but he was evasive. I don't think he really knows but everyone was high fiving him and telling him how smart he was.
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#23 Post by alleyoops »

cwk1963 wrote:
alleyoops wrote:Lol. In one of my leagues, which has been around for more than 20 years, one owner buys a magazine the day before the draft each year, and pages through it repeatedly during the auction. He has 2 titles, and I'm still looking for my first!
Ouch!! Does he qualify for the blind squirrel category?
I don't think so. He's a pretty bright guy, and does a decent job in the auctions, despite his lack of preparation. He has good relationships with all of the other owners, which helps him on the trade front. He's also done a good job in building a strong keeper list, giving him a nice start in most seasons. Good keeper list + good in-season roster management + a little luck sometimes more than offsets his lack of preparation.

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