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Where would Gordon Beckham and Chone Figgins rank in your 2B consensus rankings -- or even simpler what tier?

This may not be your exact order, or exact tier composition, but the approximate tiers are:

Utley
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Kinsler
Phillips
Pedroia
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Cano
Roberts
Hill
Zobrist
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Cabrera
Stewart
Uggla
Kendrick
Lopez

Personally, I have Beckham in Tier 3 and Figgins in Tier 4. What are your thoughts?

I have the same, not big on Figgins this year. Like Beckham especially for the dual eligiability and his talent.

I'd put each of them at the top of the last tier, beckham 1st, then figgy.

same tier they are now. They would just be in another column. Catchers have about a $7 boost in the C/Other style of CVRC. It should be $10 to account for the fact that only 20 catchers have positive value in NFBC style leagues.

I am taking this to mean you would place Beckham close to Zobrist...kind of at the end of tier 3. This would leave Figgins at the bottom of the list of 2Bman in tier 4.

According to MB

Beckham is in the $16-$18 range
Figgins around $9 and
Zobrist $21-$19

Now dollars in a vacuum should equal value. What's weird is that
Beckham goes around round 6
Figgins goes around round 6 and
Zorbist goes around round 4.

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder

I will say this, I like Chone much better as a 2b this year than a 3b.....His offensive stat line plays much better there than at 3b.... You need simply need more Power production from that corner

The only way I would play chone at 3b personally is if I owned a cheap Ian Stewart type to play 2b instead of 3b... it is simply a swap, but the results are the same..Power /speed combo..

are we back to SBs from 2B and more valuable than SBs from 3B. What does that do to Uggla's value given he has no speed. Our goal is to draft 14 hitters who reach a certain composite total of five different stats. Where they come from should not matter.

It's not a matter of value. It is all about availability of resources. Getting 30+ SB from 3B means you pretty much HAVE TO get pop from the middle, reducing your available assets as the supply of that is thin and it also makes all the cheap OF speed available less attractive. I'd rather get an Adrian Beltre than Figgins at 3B.

Actually, Todd kind of addressed it..It has more to do with roster construction, how much it will cost and the available stats for a certain category at a certain position.. I wholeheartedly agree that at the end of the year the standings do not care where the stats came from, but when you are not getting power from your 3b, you need to get make sure you are getting power from another position not known for power..... otherwise it diminishes the value of players like Denard Span, Shane Victorino or the super cheap speed in the OF as it relates to your team..You pretty much are forced to pass up on those speedy OF when they pop up in favor of potentially less valuable OF with more pop in the bat...

For me grabbing Chone as a 3b simply handcuffs my team into selecting players I might not have if I wasnt deficient in 3b Pop.... And I personally would like as many options available to me in the mid late rounds of a draft...

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