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The same thing occurs for NFBC setups. There are 20 catchers instead of 30 with positive values. If you remove the 10 lowest valued non-catchers, you still have enough players for every position, with a few extras. My take is that it doesn't actually make any difference in the overall scheme of thin...

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are the MIX15 dollars in the projection file using Catcher/non-Catcher or are they by position. I thought you said in a prior post you used the catcher/non-catcher method.

I see Hanley is $43 in CVRC but $40 in Projection.

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I'm fine with the average you have. My scale would have your team around the .280 mark. Like you, I try to avoid average drainers.

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Drafting from the middle allows you to "go with the flow". The problem with that is you can find yourself without a drafting plan because you often switch directions as the draft winds change. From either end, you need a plan you stick to and a degree of drafting discipline that it takes e...

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very true on speed. That is a commodity which can be found. It might be the only hitting commodity on the waiver wire. Finding power is rare. I feel the same is true for average. I always like to have a bit of average in reserve so I can use the one-trick speed pony at times. I'm not sure if I have ...

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Power looks fine. Speed is lacking. Average will do fine. My code scores are +2 HR -3 SB +0 BA In mocks, I find that a zero in HR & Ave equates to 10-12. A zero in SB ends up with an 7-8. I try an not dissect players but look at category values in roster construction. You got a solid staff of fo...

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I see Chapman is added and Figgins ABs and counting stats upped.

I presume Lowell will be returned to the DB as an AL and that Dunn & Dukes will return from AWOL.

Were any other projections changed besides Chapman & Figgins in last evenings maintenance run?

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Todd's point that "we may be getting a little too NFBCentric at times, meaning we are thinking of things in a no-trade league" is well said. I suppose it is because the Rookie Invitational is drafting Sunday and many of the comments are from those members. In auction and trade leagues, thi...

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I think I said, slightly below average speed.

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I've also read that the Twins may be looking to get Frasor.

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Another target date met. This is a very good thing. Of course there will be some news today which will cause changes but these projections are just a snapshot of known events. I'm very happy to see the two tabs showing changes in IP & AB. I added a column showing the differences and sorted it to...

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I guess the first three were Longoria, Phillips & Rollins with Granderson/Ethier at the 4th/5th rounds One of the MIs you got lucky on. At first glance you have solid power, slightly below average speed and a batting average that will be a solid "1" cat point, maybe "2". You ...

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we all construct our rosters differently. In real baseball, the adage had always been power on the corners to include LF & RF, and speed up the middle to include CF. And along came Arod, Ripken, Nomar & Tejada and the world tilted on its axis.

Change is the only constant

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are we back to SBs from 2B and more valuable than SBs from 3B. What does that do to Uggla's value given he has no speed. Our goal is to draft 14 hitters who reach a certain composite total of five different stats. Where they come from should not matter.

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I have no clue if this is a fair analysis but the season has 6 months. A $24 players earns $4 per month. His value would drop about $4 per month that he is out. However, since he is know to be out you probably add back something for his replacement. This add-back idea only works when you absolutely ...

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According to MB

Beckham is in the $16-$18 range
Figgins around $9 and
Zobrist $21-$19

Now dollars in a vacuum should equal value. What's weird is that
Beckham goes around round 6
Figgins goes around round 6 and
Zorbist goes around round 4.

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder

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I used to do a lot of ESPN H2H. My way of playing there no longer works as they limits add/drops each week. I will say that punting a category is a bad way to go. You end of totally conceding categories. The weekly ups and downs in categories means you have a smaller margin of error. I would stress ...

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same tier they are now. They would just be in another column. Catchers have about a $7 boost in the C/Other style of CVRC. It should be $10 to account for the fact that only 20 catchers have positive value in NFBC style leagues.

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if you are taking him, then this bud's for you.

As far as rankings go, I used to combine 1B/3B and 2B/SS but eventually separated them as it was cosmetically easier for me. That said, I am considering combining them starting with my $6 and under tier.

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Thanks for the comments and hopefully there will be more. We all know that Tulo is perceived as a late 1st/early 2nd round player. MB has projections that confirm this. I look at just one other site for projections and BBHQ sees a different player who is late 3rd. I think we all agree he will never ...

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Thoughts on Troy he scares me and he is often times available at the end of round one. Should he scare me? I agree with the profile which notes he hasn't any steady history of success. I like risk aversion in the first 3-4 rounds. Sometimes players just have bad years but why draft someone so early ...

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he is a rookie and a raw rookie at that. In redraft leagues, I will let him be on someone else's roster. It's not that I won't draft rookies but my ideas on rookies are the first cousins to "don't draft rookies"

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all my leagues are once a week FAAB. As you age, these leagues become much more appealing.

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Last night he was 14.1
Tuesday nite he as 14.11

His slow draft ADP was 17th round

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As they said on Baseball Tonight, imagine Strasburg facing Heyward shortly after SS is brought up. Did they really say something about the world tilting on it's axis? I'm feel Heyward will start the season on the 25-man roster. For SS sake, I hope he gets in minor league work through at least May an...

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as a fan of baseball, I want to see him up. From a fantasy perspective, I won't have him. He is going at points in drafts that I am not interested in him. He goes way above MB projections and I haven't determined how far above. He is a good example for Todd's latest SI column.

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Is the plan for updated projections on Thursdays? If so, will there be one on March 11?

Will there be some type of "what/who has changed" tab in the spreadsheet?

I think this was answered before but I cannot find it.

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There is a lot of talk about tiers but very little details on how we actually set them up. I am curious yellow. FOR HITTING I have tiers for OF/DH, 1B, 3B, 2B, SS & CA. I break tiers by projected dollar amount with a $6 range for each tier. I draw a line in each tier at the dollar midpoint of ea...

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set the old DVR up this afternoon

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I guess I assumed the worksheet was saved with the fist of many tabs on the left. I think it was right justified instead. I found it

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when are they coming? The platinum worksheet which says "depth chart" isn't.

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I've had 8-10 leagues for several years now. It looks like it will be eight this year but that isn't 100% clear yet. I am at six now. I know there may be another MB league or two. The thing is that only one involves daily transactions and that is a CBS dynasty league with 12 teams and 40 man rosters...

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yeppers

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1. Utley - top 10 player [gap] 2. Phillips 3. Kinsler [skip a bit] 4. Pedroia 5. Hill 6. Zobrist 7. Roberts [after Zobrist due to 2B/OF eligibility for Zobrist] 8. Cano [skip] 9. Stewart [eligibility again] 10. Uggla [drops below As.Cabrera if your power is sufficient, if that can actually happen] 2...

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This is a variation of a Shandler article last week. I actually like the concept and your league's plan is better than Shandler's I think. I would be more inclined to like 10 rounds however. This idea give you an auction without the length of time for a full 23-30 player draft. At first glance I wou...

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are we now ready for that prostrate exam? Love the quote.

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when I click on the excel depth chart, it looks amazing like a cheat sheet.

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no it isn't

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it's as good as place as any.

Good nite all

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just seems high. I'm good with the OF. The 2B/3B/SS seems off. At least we are dealing with $6 or lower players. I'll probably just not take one for the end game. ST will sort things out I guess.

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Is it as easy to switch lists as you say?

I would have a hitters list, a SP list and a RP list.

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for St.Louis

508 Lopez
603 Schumaker
347 Ryan
397 Lugo
498 Ludwick
576 Rasmus
577 Holliday

Who starts?

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1. Heyward - I think he is being added tonight
2. Desmond Jennings - should he be projected

are ABs too high for:
G.Anderson - 442
Schumaker - 603
Hoffpauir - 332
M.Diaz - 482
J.Crede - 413
M.Gamel - 380
A.Huff - 529
A.Callaspo - 273 (should it be higher)

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Garret Anderson to the Dodgers. Projected ABs tumble.

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I need to check out the BA differences.

How are the default ERA & WHIP determined? Is it last place team or something different?

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other items to have 1. more pens and pencils than you think you will need - I like permanent markers but, if so, try and have something underneath your list to save the tables. 2. I always like an alphabetical list of pitchers and lower tiers hitter with their associated dollar value. Finding a play...

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no issues at all. I saw that the eligibility issues were corrected. And that Coste was missing - not being in the majors probably impacts your value. I'm curious how the defaults batting average was identified. I'm more of a .275 guy but my guess is that it won't sway the results by much if any. Thi...

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the projections have a MIX15 player value. I assume this was determined using CVRC. What were the parameters used? Specifically the hitting percentage, category weights, BA and number required at various positions. Thanks

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MUST is a bit strong. Let me say VERY HIGHLY recommended

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I'm in three local leagues where laptops are prohibited except for the person keeping the selections. At least those were the rules through last year. At the NFBC you will see owners who try keeping stuff on laptops and, when it is their turn to pick, barely get a hurried selection made in the 60 se...

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from an ADP perspective, make sure the list is from leagues of the same type you are playing. The ADP for a NFBC style league will be a lot different than for an ESPN league. The NFBC ADP probably won't work for an Al-only or NL-only league. The order by position may be close but the times that pitc...

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I can only speak for myself pure tiers - no. But I do color code players in my value tiers based on those schemes. Some people can look at a name on a sheet and know he is a 30 HR players or a 25 SB player. I admit I cannot. I know Kemp is a 20/20 players but is that 25/20 or 30/20 or 25/25, I don't...

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When I was standardizing the averages, I used around 520. I summed the total ABs for the top 210 offensive players and divided by 210. I did a similar exercise for smaller leagues. I think I even got the standardizing formula in here about four years back. Guys like Ichiro with many ABs see his .320...

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I rotate around .280. I consider a hitter as average if he is between 289-271. That is my "C" score in my color coding.

I rotate around 12 in SBs with the "C" being 15-9.

I let runs and RBIs handle themselves.

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These often intrigue me but I seldom participate. Let me just give the ADP of the NFBC completed slow drafts. I thinks this will look familiar. Breaks are based on average draft position: 1. Mauer 2. Martinez 3. McCann [27 pick break] 4. Wieters [43 pick break] 5. Montero 6. Suzuki 7. Martin 8. Soto...

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three years ago, you could draft your three reserves before you took you last catcher [or your only catcher]. However, ESPN requires you to draft a legal lineup so it may restrict you from drafting a specific position in the last rounds if you must have that particular position. Also, where they slo...

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The NFBC slow draft ADP has him as the 50th SP taken. The earliest he went was the 13th round and he averaged the 14th round. I've always liked Slowey but I'm a bit unsure this year.

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but why should a 40 inning lefty specialist impact a starting pitcher? I started doing this because I play in an auction league where IP replace K as a category. There is also an 1100 IP minimum. Needless to say the RP strategy is ancient history. Easy to do using CVRC by replacing the K column valu...

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What is the minimum number of pitchers needed to run a 15 team/ 7 pitcher per team CVRC run. I've done a trial and error and it seems that the macro goes nuts as I lower the number of pitchers in the pool. At some point around a pool double the target amount, the pool goes nuts. I ask this because t...

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Jason's writings for ESPN are usually INSIDER - meaning you have to pay to see them. I always liked reading his articles but ESPN doesn't give me $30 annually worth of articles I want to read. The problem with all the sleepers they show is they are based on the standard ESPN 10-team MLB leagues. A 2...

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no clue on ten team leagues. The reason I like the NFBC is that you can get ADPs from actual being played leagues rather than mock drafts.

The absolute best ADP is the one from the main event but that is not available until after it is too late.

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PRERANKING YOUR LISTS IS CRITICAL. You need to get your lists on the draft site ahead of time. I would suggest 3-4 days ahead of time. The problem is the Fanball site is not operational yet. I don't know how hard it will be to set up lists there. I do know that it takes a lot of time on MDC - I mea...

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Nick, just remember to have fun. I'm turning 64 in April and I learned a long time ago to smell the roses. Given that everyone will get several marginal players in the last few rounds and that, except for catching, those players should be from each of the three other positions [corners, middles &...

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Today is a "Total Pitching" day for my preparation. My guess is that it will extend through about Wednesday. I never spend enough time on pitching and I committed to do something different this year. Relative to roster construction, you establish the baseline for your staff in the first te...

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I'll comment on the question later but for now, I think you will see that Broxton has replaced Lidge as a top tier closer. Lidge may have more going-in job security but he scares the be-jeebers out of me. The top tier closers need to be sure things and Lidge is anything but. If you think Broxton is ...

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The players drafted change every year but the mix among Hitters, Starting Pitchers and Closers/Setups is almost a constant. My sample size right now is small but the results are exactly as I would have predicted. My three samples are my MDC draft last Thursday with ARC and Mark, the MB Slow draft an...

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Is anyone going there besides me? Unfortunately Todd won't be there but you will have me.

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After my first fast mock draft at MDC, I might just create a tier list specifically for power and speed. It might just be a list of name for players in each tier with that skill. It will be a time saver.

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My HR breakdown is similar to Todds. I have a 9 HR range only because its easier having four above and four below the midpoint. I use a 7 SB range. This year I'm rotating around 19HR and 11SBs. The average HR count for the top 210 players using the 180/30 mix for hitters is a bit under 19. It is a b...

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This will be my third season using a color coded scheme for skills with each tier. Simple, I have a column which uses a letter grade for HRs, SBs and BA. A score of "C" means average. Adam Dunn is graded at ADD. Top level HRs but under average in steals & average. For the top few tiers...

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I have some things to say but I am doing the mock draft tonight and I am not really prepared. My time needs to be there. I will be reading however - and trying to avoid taking already-selected players in the slow mock draft.

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Looking at the title of this thread I point out that Shandler's piece today talks about a combined Auction/Snake draft where you have money to auction off the first 4-7 rounds of your selection and then go to a snake draft. Minimum bid is $15 or so and each team gets the same number of players.

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my sons license plate is 2BLAVE A quick thought on scarcity as my coffee perks. If you accept the MB evaluation concepts of replacement players , then there is no suck thing as scarcity in an NFBC style league excluding the catchers position. The dollar value of the first several undrafted players f...

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bjoak wrote: Put the best players you can on your bench. Believe me you will end up reconstructing it in just about every faab period anyway.

The only time your bench stays the same is when you lose all your FAAB bids. OK, it is a bit of an exaggeration but not by much.

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after the draft, the most likely configurations will be 4-3 or 3-4. Come June when three players are on the DL and your bench is reduced to just four spots, things will be a bit more interesting.

I'll probably start 3 hitters and 4 pitchers. However there will be no job security whatsoever.

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I have an aside here. I have pretty much completed the projected standing for the current slow draft in MB. I am using the BBHQ Feb 1 projections for the standings and the MB projections for my personal cheat sheet. I did this so I wasn't drafting of fthe same set of stats. There is a huge flaw if y...

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I lied...Another question. Being this is a unique rookie league, How would you compare this to a typical NFBC league? I realize that anyone posting 1300 bucks must be pretty serious. I also realize that the luck of the draw in forming individual leagues might have something to with the quality of t...

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relative the to Mon/Fri lineup changes, you can look at you choices and then see who their opposing SP will be and where they are playing. In reality, you are probably only looking at a handful of players - to bench Howard for 3 full days is not right even if he is going against a great lefty on Fri...

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I presume you are Ok with my hanson & Bumgarner picks.

I ahve considered dropping Peroda if I need to spot. We have 40 man rosters and all are kept.

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my one note is that drafting from an end means you need to be ready. You also need to plan on your strategy for when runs occur. This is best done by understanding the positions and what is available at various points of the draft. Just because there is a 2B run does not mean you must reach to get o...

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Players with multiple eligibility can do wonders. If you have a 2BSS starting at middle, a 1B3B starting at the corner and a OF at UTIL, just having one corner and one middle on your bench allows for any non-catcher to be sat for that half week. In most cases, you can get away with a totally flexibl...

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I have Aaron Poreda in a dynasty league. The league started last year so I had to start learning about minors. He was traded to the Padres in the Peavy deal. He came up as an RP but he is supposed to eventually start. Could I have any insights on him?

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Opinions differ. This rule divides the hitting week into a 4-day and 3-day stretch. More closely is two 3-day periods as teams often get either Monday or Thursday off. With plate appearances a key to counting numbers, if you have a choice between two equal and weak players, one of which will be star...

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I wish I could find an old column of mine from my days at Creativesports. Here is what I remember. I recall suggesting the drafting from the middle was easiest. Some of the reasons were: 1. you would never get out of touch when a run on closers [or any position] started. If you are drafting from the...

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well, the go to bed part is about right.

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to be totally honest, I would look elsewhere, get both or flip a coin. Right now there is really no way to tell. This is my unscientific opinion.

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in deep leagues, the 23 HR players are not on waivers. In shallow leagues they probably are. I guess it all depends on your type of league.

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he will start and end the season on the DL

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Baseball tonight just said Volquez is out until August.

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I would not be surprised to see Jason Flores there

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Prado was round 13 in this practice draft. May go a bit higher later in the year. Still probably in the second half of your starters being drafted. When I think of top half, I think of the 14 active starters. This is probably due to 4 of my leagues having no bench. If you draft then, you play them.

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none of these players were top half draft-worthy players. I mostly wanted verification because of my four local AL & NL leagues. I still haven't seen the NFBC list of eligibility. I don't believe it is posted on the Fanball site. They are building draft lobbies and league pages along with the so...

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could you check the position eligibility for several players. I took the eligibility for the 2/15 hitters excel file. I presume that CVRC is the same. I used rotoworld for games played - only place I found that had stuff easily. Coste, Chris - you show C1B but I think it should be C [only 19 at 1B] ...

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the 2009 range was 6323-5884. I forgot to add walks on my prior post. Amazing what stats are so easily findable on the internet.

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interesting, the 2009 range was from 5696-5398

note [wrong numbers - see later post]

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is the range roughly 5800-6300?

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is Damon about the only hitter who can significantly modify a set of OF/DH projections? Of the free agent hitters, he seems to be the only one who will have a guaranteed starting position. also, I counted up the plate appearances for each team [idle mind, devil's playground syndrome], and the team b...

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:o My pops would have a cow if I joined a 4th league (And considering he used to do this for a living that's saying something) BUT kudos to you and Viper for organizing this. And definitely let me know before next season if this could be a go for 2011. I'd like to take some credit for this idea but...

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it seems that you should take longer looks at players with reduced ABs which could only be attributed to DL days. A question to those projecting playing time is how often is DL time actually predicted.

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Given you seem to dislike all projections, how do you differentiate players and judge when to take pitchers or hitters in a straight draft. Viper, I think you missed part of my post. I project everything, re-read the last paragraph of my post. :) If you are projecting everyone to a specific AB numb...

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